The Witchtower is being more careful now about putting a date out there for the beginning of the Great Tribulation. I think that they have learned their lesson from 1975. However they sure like to throw the word "soon" around. Every meeting and almost every prayer it is mentioned that soon God will destroy his enemies. The meaning of this word is different to a Witness versus a non-Witness. I saw a quote from an article in the Watchtower from 20 years ago that said that God's kingdom would SOON usher in a paradise earth. To a Witness it was soon then and this event is still soon. If I were to tell my wife excitedly that I am taking her to Europe soon would she be happy if I waited 3 years? How about 20 years? She would be upset and call be a liar. If I told my boss at work that I was going to quit my job soon would he wait 6 months to start finding a replacement? How about 20 years? He would call me a liar. If my wife told the elders at the KH that she was going to start pioneering soon, would they expect her to do so in several months or wait 20 years? They would say that she lied to them. The Watchtower should say instead of SOON, in God's due time, sometime in the future, when God is ready. We are God's children. What would you child think if you told them that you will take you to Disney World soon. What would soon mean to them? My guess is if not this year then next year at the latest. I doubt that would be happy if soon was 20 years later. I guess that soon does not have a starting point nor an ending point, just an awareness that it is soon. Sour Grapes | |
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Be honest with me "how soon is soon?"
by Sour Grapes inthe witchtower is being more careful now about putting a date.
out there for the beginning of the great tribulation.
they have learned their lesson from 1975. however they sure.
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It just keeps getting better and better.
by Sour Grapes intwo comments at last weeks meeting:.
1. the education that we receive at the kingdom.
hall is the best in the universe.. 2. the movie "the advengers" should not be seen because.
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You just can't this stuff up.
At a previous meeting it was said from the stage that
the Hunger Games movie was "off limits" to JW's.
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It just keeps getting better and better.
by Sour Grapes intwo comments at last weeks meeting:.
1. the education that we receive at the kingdom.
hall is the best in the universe.. 2. the movie "the advengers" should not be seen because.
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Two comments at last weeks meeting:
1. The education that we receive at the Kingdom
Hall is the best in the universe.
2. The movie "The Advengers" should not be seen because
it is a part of Babylon the Great since the super hero's
represent the Nephlem.
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If you knew that a murder was going to take place......
by Sour Grapes inif you knew that a murder would take place and did.
nothing to stop it would you share some responsibility?.
if you knew that your neighbor was going to be robbed.
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I guess that at times it is a little confusing to me. I want
to believe that God cares and that He has some sort of
a master plan, but at times I just don't know.
I still say grace before meals to thank God for the food that
He provides but then I realize that if God gave me this food
then why doesn't He give food to millions of other people
who are starving to death? It sorta makes me feel guilty
for even thanking Him for the food.
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If you knew that a murder was going to take place......
by Sour Grapes inif you knew that a murder would take place and did.
nothing to stop it would you share some responsibility?.
if you knew that your neighbor was going to be robbed.
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If you knew that a murder would take place and did
nothing to stop it would you share some responsibility?
If you knew that your neighbor was going to be robbed
and did nothing about it would you have any responsibility?
God has the ablity to stop all murders and all crime.
If He does nothing to stop it does He have any responsibity?
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An email sent to me- we are reallly close to the end
by Sour Grapes insubject: short illustration regarding the "cowbird"hello, we recently dedicated our remodeled kingdom hall here in los angeles , and our guest speaker was bro.
javier hernandez from brooklyn bethel.
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Subject: Short illustration regarding the "Cowbird"Hello, We recently dedicated our remodeled Kingdom Hall here in Los Angeles , and our guest speaker was Bro. Javier Hernandez from Brooklyn Bethel. Bro. Hernandez did a program in English and Spanish, which was outstanding. Then on Sunday he gave our Public Talk and then a service talk entitled "Imitate Their Faith." It highlighted the hard work of the governing body, and why we should imitate their example. Bro. Hernandez is very knowledgeable of the Governing Body, because he serves as Bro. Herd's personal secretary.
I have to relate the wonderful illustration he gave of the lazy cowbird. It is so good. Bro. Hernandez grew up in West Texas , and often saw cowbirds. These birds spend most of their time on the backs of cows eating parasites. When they spot a bird building a nest they will wait for the bird to leave and then go and lay their eggs in someone else's nest. The cowbird is lazy, so it goes back to the cow. The unsuspecting bird doesn't notice the extra eggs, and when they hatch, she begins flying off to feed them. This tires her out so that when her own eggs hatch she is too weak to feed them, and her babies end up dying.
Today Satan is like the cowbird. He watches us and then tries to drop eggs into our nest. They may be work, school, entertainment, recreation, or whatever, and we begin to take more care of Satan's eggs than our own spiritual needs. If we are not careful, our spirituality will die because we are too busy feeding Satan's eggs. So watch out for those deadly eggs and get them out of your nest!
What a simple practical real life illustration! Maybe you have heard it before but it was so good I had to share. Bro.Hernandez also repeatedly said we are living in the last seconds of the last days. No doubt working closely with the Governing Body, that phrase is common. It's a good reminder of our need to get and be ready.
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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"
by Sour Grapes inlast week a young elder giving the public talk made.
the statement that "some were led to believe that the.
end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.
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Who remembers the WT anthem "stay alive till 75"?
At our circuit assemblies we had signs on the stage
that would say 28 months to go. Then then next circuit
assembly it would be 22 months to go. I wish that I
had pictures of that. As we were in 1975 I noticed that
the signs came down. I thought that was strange.
Well I guess in hind sight that I did stay alive till 75 and
I stayed alive until 2012.
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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"
by Sour Grapes inlast week a young elder giving the public talk made.
the statement that "some were led to believe that the.
end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.
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One thing I will say about the early 1970's and being a JW
was there was alot excitment and enthusiam. Our KH was packed with
no empty seats. There were 6 elders in my Hall and I was
one that at first did not believe that the end was going to
happen in 1975 because "no one knows the day or the hour."
Then I got called on the carpet for not following the lead of the
Witchtower Society and I started to think maybe it will happen
and I got caught up in the frenzy. I recall in January of 1976
that this can't be until I heard the talk from Brother Franz gave
that we do not know when Eve was created. So if God waited
6 months to create her after Adam's creation than the 6,000 years
of man's existence would take us into 1976 and if God waited a year to
create Eve then it could be the end of 1976. I then began to realize that
I had beed dupped.
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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"
by Sour Grapes inlast week a young elder giving the public talk made.
the statement that "some were led to believe that the.
end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.
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As I looked around the Hall this morning and saw so
many people in their 70's and 80's, I did not see much
joy in their eyes. They realize that as the "light gets brighter
and brighter" that they are getting older and older and chances
are they will not be amoung the 'millions now living will never die."
I am in my 60's and have accepted that I will die which I did
not believe once upon a time when the end was near back
in the 70's.
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"some were led to believe that the end would come in 1975"
by Sour Grapes inlast week a young elder giving the public talk made.
the statement that "some were led to believe that the.
end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull.
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Last week a young elder giving the public talk made
the statement that "some were led to believe that the
end would come in 1975, but aren't we so thankfull
that did not happen?"
The insinuation is made that back in 1975 that some
Witnesses drew incorrect conclussions about the nearness
of Armageddon, while the faithfull ones knew better and did not
hold that believe. The elder giving the talk was not even born until
after 1975 and does not know the truth about 1975. The exact opposite
is what is the truth. I was an elder in 1972 who gave up going to a 2 year
school to be a medical technician and was counseled by other
elders that I was showing lack of faith in the Society if I go to
school to get training for something that would not be needed in
a few years. If you did not endorse the time table pushed
by the Watchtower then you were considered weak and lacking
faith. How things get twisted around and how quick we forget
what actually happened during the early 1970's.
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